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Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities
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- From: "Adelmann Andreas (PSI)" <andreas.adelmann AT psi.ch>
- To: Anastasia Ierides <Anastasia.Ierides AT varian.com>
- Cc: opal <opal AT lists.psi.ch>
- Subject: Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities
- Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 20:26:07 +0000
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Hi Anastasia IMO the field map should always start at 0.0 and by
using ELEMENTEGDE you can move the cavity very transparently.
Cheers A
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On 19 Dec 2019, at 20:34, Anastasia Ierides <Anastasia.Ierides AT varian.com> wrote:
Hi Christoff,It looks like that fixed the problem. I guess I was a bit unclear as to the definitions of the physical dimensions of the electric field map and the element edge definitions.Thank you for your help and Happy Holidays!AnastasiaFrom: Christof Metzger-Kraus <christof.j.kraus AT gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 10:17 AM
To: Anastasia Ierides <Anastasia.Ierides AT varian.com>
Cc: Adelmann Andreas (PSI) <andreas.adelmann AT psi.ch>; opal <opal AT lists.psi.ch>
Subject: Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavitiesThe problem, I think, is that the fields are both shifted in the input file as well as in the field map files. Try to set ELEMEDGE = 0 for all cavities.CheersChristofAnastasia Ierides <Anastasia.Ierides AT varian.com> schrieb am Do., 19. Dez. 2019, 19:03:Hi Christof,The header for the full geometry is:“1DDynamic 2401.000000e-02 2.369820e+01 49999928560 2.200000e-01 199-3.818347e-06-3.822820e-06-3.827294e-06-3.831770e-06-3.836248e-06”And for the separated fields they are1DDynamic 2400 2.32400e+00 10000028560 3.1100000e-01 199-3.818347e-06-3.820531e-06-3.822716e-06-3.824901e-06-3.827087e-06-3.829273e-061DDynamic 2402.324100e+00 6.972300e+00 10000028560 3.1100000e-01 199-2.915139e-04-2.914721e-04-2.914302e-04-2.913883e-04-2.913464e-04-2.913046e-041DDynamic 2406.972400e+00 1.22200e+01 10000028560 3.110000e-01 1999.423340e-079.413692e-079.404042e-079.394390e-079.384737e-079.375081e-071DDynamic 2401.22210e+01 1.746760e+01 10000028560 3.110000e-01 199-4.077816e-07-4.074007e-07-4.070200e-07-4.066393e-07-4.062588e-07-4.058784e-071DDynamic 2401.74686e+01 2.37000e+01 10000028560 3.110000e-01 1991.134056e-061.133357e-061.132658e-061.131959e-061.131260e-061.130561e-06Thanks,AnastasiaFrom: Christof Metzger-Kraus <christof.j.kraus AT gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 9:53 AM
To: Anastasia Ierides <Anastasia.Ierides AT varian.com>
Cc: Adelmann Andreas (PSI) <andreas.adelmann AT psi.ch>; opal <opal AT lists.psi.ch>
Subject: Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavitiesHi Anastasia,could you send us the header of the field map files (first 10 lines or so)? This should be sufficient for now.CheersChristof
Anastasia Ierides <Anastasia.Ierides AT varian.com> schrieb am Do., 19. Dez. 2019, 18:42:Hi Andreas,
Attached you will find my input files for both cases (with the full linac geometry and the separated linac geometry) as well as a plot of the expected (red) normalized electric field felt by the reference particle, versus what is outputted by OPAL (blue), where the geometry seems to be extended to almost twice the distance. I have looked at the initial distribution file (LINAC1D_DIST.dat) and it shows a spatial increase between the separated cavities, even though the cavities are specified to be one right after the other. I have not attached the field map files here as they are a bit large. Will you need the field map files as well?
Thanks,
Anastasia
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From: Adelmann Andreas (PSI) <andreas.adelmann AT psi.ch>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 10:49 PM
To: Anastasia Ierides <Anastasia.Ierides AT varian.com>
Cc: opal AT lists.psi.ch
Subject: Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities
Hi Anastasia can you attach a example, showing your problem?
A
> On 19 Dec 2019, at 02:51, Anastasia <anastasia.ierides AT varian.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> As a tutorial, I am trying to model a linear accelerator as a beam
> line of separate RF cavities rather than the whole LINAC geometry as
> one RFCavity element. I have run the simulation both with a single
> RFCavity element and with multiple cavities, wherein the dimensions
> are appropriately defined in the field map files, such that the
> elements are right next to each other with no space in between.
>
> In the single element simulation, the refence particle electric field
> is observed to depict expected behavior in the defined geometry, but
> in the case of separate elements, there seems to be an additional
> “space” that is added between the individual elements, extending the
> overall geometry to almost twice the length. Could this be a mistake
> on my part in my input files, etc., or is there something in the code
> that by default forces this type of behavior? For instance, in a
> situation where elements are too close together, are they forced to have some minimal distance between them, etc.?
>
> I guess the first question should be, does OPAL allow for the
> capability to model a whole geometry as separate, yet connected RFCavity elements?
>
> Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
- [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Anastasia, 12/19/2019
- Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Adelmann Andreas (PSI), 12/19/2019
- RE: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Anastasia Ierides, 12/19/2019
- Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Christof Metzger-Kraus, 12/19/2019
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- Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Christof Metzger-Kraus, 12/19/2019
- RE: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Anastasia Ierides, 12/19/2019
- Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Adelmann Andreas (PSI), 12/19/2019
- Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Christof Metzger-Kraus, 12/20/2019
- RE: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Anastasia Ierides, 12/19/2019
- Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Christof Metzger-Kraus, 12/19/2019
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- Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Christof Metzger-Kraus, 12/19/2019
- RE: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Anastasia Ierides, 12/19/2019
- Re: [Opal] Extra travel distance added to reference particle data between subsequent attached RF cavities, Adelmann Andreas (PSI), 12/19/2019
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