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  • From: Adelmann Andreas <andreas.adelmann AT psi.ch>
  • To: "Abel.PIRES AT cea.fr" <Abel.PIRES AT cea.fr>
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  • Subject: Re: [Opal] Questions about space charge in an alpha magnet with OPAL
  • Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 05:21:56 +0000
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Hi Abel at the moment coherent synchrotron radiation is done by using a analytic formulas 
http://amas.web.psi.ch/opal/Documentation/master/#chp.wakefields. So depending how the Mainz
colleagues simulated the magnet this could be a solution but of course only approximative.

The full 3D (FDTD approach) is only available  in wigglers c.f. https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.02316
Adapting to the alpha magnet will be a major but very interesting  project. 


Cheers A
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Dr. sc. math. Andreas (Andy) Adelmann
Head a.i. Labor for Scientific Computing and Modelling 
Paul Scherrer Institut OHSA/D09 CH-5232 Villigen PSI
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On 13 Apr 2023, at 16:29, Abel.PIRES AT cea.fr wrote:

Dear Andreas and Christof,
 
Thank you for your answers. I am happy to learn that it is possible, and that it has already be done !
Are you in contact with Simon Friederich, or should I contact him by myself ? I would be very happy to know how he worked it out, and if he used a cyclotron element or ring element, or something else.
 
I can provide some more detail. Here is a link for a publication concerning the installation of the alpha magnets :
P. Guimbal et al., “Status of the ELSA-2 Project,” in Proc. EPAC’02, Paris, France, Jun. 2002, paper TUPRI066, pp.1768-1770. 
 
I am also joining some other figures :
 
fig_1      is the layout of the first part of the accelerator, until the first alpha magnet. It is a simulation run with TraceWIN/PARTRAN. The input main beam parameters are included in the screenshot. From the input to GAP8, the beam goes from 2 MeV to 17 MeV.
fig_2      is the layout again, with the emittances. One can notice a large emittance growth for the Y axis due to the transport through the alpha magnet, while the X axis emittance is conserved. 
fig_3      is the magnetic field produced by the alpha magnets
fig_4      is the electric field produced by the bunch, in the middle of the alpha magnets. Simulation done with CST PS.
fig_5      is the matrix of a fraction of a alpha magnet. More details can be found in the TraceWin documentation, page 155 :     https://irfu.cea.fr/dacm/logiciels/codesdacm/tracewin/tracewin.pdf
                I can provide the numerical values computed by TraceWin partran for the 6x6 matrix of the alpha magnet
 
At the moment, we did simulation using CST PS and TraceWIN/PARTRAN. I found non-negligible differences for the results of these two codes. Basically, we found more important emittance growth for the Y axis using CST PS. We submitted a paper for peer review for IPAC 2023 with these results, I should be able to communicate it soon.
 
As you said, we want to investigate the effects of the small bending radius. And we would like to investigate synchrotron radiation in a second phase.  
Do you think it would be possible with Opal ? Which version of Opal would be the best fitted for that ?
 
Sincerely,
Abel Pires
 
 
 
De : Christof Metzger-Kraus <christof.j.kraus AT gmail.com> 
Envoyé : mercredi 12 avril 2023 23:03
À : Adelmann Andreas <andreas.adelmann AT psi.ch>
Cc : PIRES Abel 611230 <Abel.PIRES AT cea.fr>; opal AT lists.psi.ch
Objet : Re: [Opal] Questions about space charge in an alpha magnet with OPAL
 
Hi, 
Simon Friederich from University of Mainz has done simulations of an alpha magnet using Opal-T. He could possibly provide you sample files for this.
 
Cheers,
Christof
 
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 5:37 PM Adelmann Andreas <andreas.adelmann AT psi.ch> wrote:
Dear Abel sorry for the delay in answering. 
 
Indeed this is an interesting problem, maybe even a challenge! 
 
OPAL does not have a predefined alpha magnet. However if a field map could read
could try to model this.
 
I would guess that there is a need to model synchrotron radiation (maybe in a second phase) and what certainly needs 
to be addressed is the small bending radius. Our field solver uses a Cartesian grid, we need to understand the implication
of this. 
 
Overall I am certain that OPAL can be used/updated to solve that problem, however some modification are maybe required order.
 
Cheers A
------
Dr. sc. math. Andreas (Andy) Adelmann
Head a.i. Labor for Scientific Computing and Modelling 
Paul Scherrer Institut OHSA/D09 CH-5232 Villigen PSI
Phone Office: xx41 56 310 42 33 Fax: xx41 56 310 31 91
Zoom ID: 470-582-4086 Password: AdA
Zoom Link: 
https://ethz.zoom.us/j/4705824086?pwd=dFcvT1pMMGY0bHg0dTNncUNZZTJkZz09

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Friday: ETH HPK G 28   +41 44 633 3076
============================================
The more exotic, the more abstract the knowledge, 
the more profound will be its consequences.
Leon Lederman 
============================================


On 7 Apr 2023, at 15:38, Abel.PIRES AT cea.fr wrote:
 
Hello,
 
I am contacting you because I am interested by your code. I am working at CEA in France, close to Paris. I work on a 30 MeV electron LINAC. After first acceleration stage, the beam reach 17 MeV and then travels through two alpha magnets. With appropriate chirp, we can compress beam from 30ps rms to 7ps rms. At high charge (>1nC) there is large emittance growth within the alpha magnets.
We want to simulate properly the beam transport through this magnetic element, which bend the beam trajectory into the shape of a alpha letter. I am joining an image to illustrate.
 
A good simulation of the transport through alpha magnet is necessary, we could use field maps in the laboratory frame, or the alpha transfer matrice. Then a good simulation of space charge effects is necessary, with the least assumptions.
I have three questions, if you could answer them that would help me decide if I should use your code for these simulations.
 
Do you know if your code would enable such simulations ?
What are the assumptions done in your code that could be inappropriate for this situation ?
What are the strength of your code regarding this simulation ?
 
If you have any questions or need more details don’t hesitate to contact me.
 
Best regards,
Abel Pires
 
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